BS. They sold 110k copies at launch. Steam takes a cut but thats a whole lot more than 650k.
Would accepting defeat be the better choice right now for the game long term?
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Literally exactly what I was saying before this game even went into Beta. Hate to be the guy who said "I told ya so", but.. well... I did.
Think hes talking about net profit.
Jatix is talking about gross revenue. Which would be the 110k x 35$ usd or w.e it is figure.
Basically after salaries, development cost, cocaine, UE store assets. They were left with a 650k surplus.
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looking at their financial statements
"all numbers in thousands" What isn't clear is what the currency is. Since it doesn't specify sek i'm assuming its in USD.
If its in usd
they made 6.5 million approx is revenue
and 600k approx in income
to the best of my understanding. I'm not an accountant.
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According to Henrique everyone comes back to mortal, maybe It's one of the brightest things he said. They come back just to quit it again.
Henrik says a lot of things, Not the first time hes claimed he was sorry he made mistakes and then continued to double down on the mistakes he said he sorry he made.
Learn what PR is. He can say something and then do no actions to rectify those mistakes.
Henrik sayings hes sorry has never been followed up by actions to correct those mistakes.
Most of the time its just him sorry that people hate him or are upset, not that hes actually sorry he fucked over his customers or treated us poorly or is killing the game that we want to succeed.
I think he just genuinely doesn't understand things. I don't see him as dishonest despite the fact that he lied to our faces about a wall of shame and then never added it.
If i were s CEO of a game company and i get flamed by the community like this I'd feel bad about it. Maybe thats the reason nobody reads the forum and they actual overmoderate discord, because they might actually ocationally see discord, but not forums.
I think how he dodges Is being dishonest, because they create spaces for feedback they don't aknowledge or monitor, dev agenda seems completly arbitrary and when he streams he wont talk about the development status. why does he even stream to say nothing about the game, answer moronic questions, comments and talk about UE5 and how it doesn't "disrupt" their development because they hired new people, when they should be dedicating full traction to core features.
This erratic behavior from the company Is dishonest, many lies and deceit just to fill noobs expectations, you can actually see genuine people talking about boats on helpchat and some koto tryhard rerolls pretending to be "noobs about to quit due to griefing".
It would be really naive to think Henrique is just clumsy lol.
FUCK lol.
That's my response. You're not wrong per se, but...
Giving up is never the answer. Giving up is something you do on other people lol SPEAKING OF NARCISSISM! Give up on people, their bullshit, their problems, their projects... but never give up on what you are working on! There is no giving up and then coming back IMO, once you give up, it's ova.
The sad part is not only do I feel uninvolved in MO's development cycle (not like I'm some dude who spent thousands of dollars on MO over the years like the people who are prol suggesting,) but I feel like all I can do is just hope things work out. lol. That's not a good place to be. If you're playing AAA OK, but indie na...
The roadmap has more placeholders than clade tree. "MORE STUFF," SECRETS.
You CAN control people's behavior w/ incentives. The sand box is supposed to do that. The one thing MO has going for it that other games don't is a huge open world and first person. When you compare that to other MMOs they are like lololol. BUT MO is trying its hardest to become a meme again. Why? roadmaps. People want necromancy. I bet necromancy brings back 100~ people MAX and if they stay, other people prol will leave.
I dunno why the fuck it's so hard to ADD STUFF TO THE WORLD. Jeff Dumpster talks about Junk Collectors, but yea there should be MAD STUFF to pick up. Was in spider cave and it's like ah a torch on the ground... - tries to pick up -
IT'S A DISGRACE I TELLYA.
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FUCK lol.
That's my response. You're not wrong per se, but...
Giving up is never the answer. Giving up is something you do on other people lol SPEAKING OF NARCISSISM! Give up on people, their bullshit, their problems, their projects... but never give up on what you are working on! There is no giving up and then coming back IMO, once you give up, it's ova.
The sad part is not only do I feel uninvolved in MO's development cycle (not like I'm some dude who spent thousands of dollars on MO over the years like the people who are prol suggesting,) but I feel like all I can do is just hope things work out. lol. That's not a good place to be. If you're playing AAA OK, but indie na...
The roadmap has more placeholders than clade tree. "MORE STUFF," SECRETS.
You CAN control people's behavior w/ incentives. The sand box is supposed to do that. The one thing MO has going for it that other games don't is a huge open world and first person. When you compare that to other MMOs they are like lololol. BUT MO is trying its hardest to become a meme again. Why? roadmaps. People want necromancy. I bet necromancy brings back 100~ people MAX and if they stay, other people prol will leave.
I dunno why the fuck it's so hard to ADD STUFF TO THE WORLD. Jeff Dumpster talks about Junk Collectors, but yea there should be MAD STUFF to pick up. Was in spider cave and it's like ah a torch on the ground... - tries to pick up -
Here is your throwable torch. Never implemented in the games history.
Rubrik, dont have to be a genious to forsee MO2 was going to be garbage, we knew this when we we're laughing at starvault before they would announce its development. We made bug jokes about it and that ended up as reality.
I for example was watching Henrique stream a day prior to MO2 release when he was saying the game could handle 100k, and i thought, "this is going to be a shitshow" and like ptsd started remembering MO1 steam launch which was a shitshow, funny. MO2 launch was strangely similar to the previous one, it was a shitshow of broken promises poor development and the game went down ever since, very minor quality of life features came just to appease the people playing.
Now it's just another declining morpg.
loool it's been years but you gotta give them credit for making the game look less janky. Who needs torches when you can drop like 20 campfires!
I'm just saying if a fucking lit torch is pixel'd on the ground, there's no fucking way I shouldn't be able to pick it up.
ACtually the game was almost good. There was just a couple malicious people that got their talons in Henrik early and fucked it up for everyone.
Just gotta trust me. He listened to some really dumb people who never even played MO or if they did they didn't understand it.
Ah yeah i guess, they allways had that thing that they would listen to simpletons lol.
In MO1 it was terrible hideous how they would balance shit for specific groups, such as sieging scraps nerf a day prior to ID keep siege.
But you can't really blame the idiots who thought to ask" gotta blame the idiots that made it.
I can tottally imagine some simpleton telling Henrique he needs to make a bounty system like SWG, everyone will love it, nothing can ho wrong jiji.
Also do u know whos supposed to be telling SV what's good for the game? By the looks of it i can imagine some "vet" from koto. The turns the game has been taking since launch regarding law and conflict is not something any idiot would come up with, it's something someone specially idiotic would come up with.
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Switching to another game as a focus to re-release this later. Nah. That would never work. If this game were still in it's infancy I'd say develop a smaller less ambitious non-MMO title that helps develop the mechanics you eventually want to see in your MMO and use that to raise money for the MMO. Given we already have an MMO, it's full stream ahead on that front or total defeat.
"We screwed up the launch and are going to redo it after we take the game back into development long enough to fix the biggest problems!" That's been done before. By multiple other MMOs. Including FF14 to great success. I think there are a lot more benefits than risks to SV taking that route right now.
"We screwed up the launch and are going to redo it after we take the game back into development long enough to fix the biggest problems!" That's been done before. By multiple other MMOs. Including FF14 to great success. I think there are a lot more benefits than risks to SV taking that route right now.