I see your argument. You are saying people can adjust guarding instantly and it's reflex based. That's true but - What I am trying to say is, older pc's, players, need to be able to adjust there blocks b/c poor reflexes can be corrected. If you cannot correct the bad action(s) that will result in faster fights... I tried MO1 at the start but I actually stuck with DF. DF, MO1, all resulted in running in fast circles around your target with cat like reflexes hitting your target in range and in and out from my experience. Id rather much have mount and blade combat like we got now. Is it pefect? NO. But I think its a great start.
Should blocks have a cooldown before you can block again
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I see your argument. You are saying people can adjust guarding instantly and it's reflex based. That's true but - What I am trying to say is, older pc's, players, need to be able to adjust there blocks b/c poor reflexes can be corrected. If you cannot correct the bad action(s) that will result in faster fights... I tried MO1 at the start but I actually stuck with DF. DF, MO1, all resulted in running in fast circles around your target with cat like reflexes hitting your target in range and in and out from my experience. Id rather much have mount and blade combat like we got now. Is it pefect? NO. But I think its a great start.
Also, lets all try to remember, this alpha combat test - its with toons maxed out... just think of newbs vs maxed out toons.... I think we are all jumping ahead of ourselves asking for revisions. I'd like devs to make everyone no skills/levels and see how it works for a month or two before a wipe/persistence.
The running fast in circles is suppsedly a legitimate argument but I mean if you took a few weaks learning how to use the preemption of strikes, positioning, and use of different weapon length based on directional swing, feint etc you could come up with a system that allowed you to do much violence without excessive running. I don't mind the running compared to mordhau and chivalry. It's forgiving and also the old vet has imo the best chance with lower reflex changes it just took alot of effort. I fear the children.
We should not wish for SV to dumb down or balance down combat to accommodate half built characters.
It should be balanced for the naked to have a chance at the highest built character imo.
Well said. Here is how I think: Most people will never get that good but maybe average. They can cater to the same 500 people in MO and they can continue to have there circle jerking combat orgy. Or people can accept changes (much more fun for the most part for most people). I still actually see circle fighting in this game lol - just toned down alot... I see vets not liking it cause they cant gank a single competent person in a few seconds now. I think SV wants 5-6k players at least. MnB has a huge following, MO2 is killing it and could draw a lot of people.
I agree with this 150%. A naked average person in real life is very dangerous with a knife, even if you wear armor.
Well We can go into paretio principles if you want but I think the best idea is to have trickle down wealth which allows for the newbie to get to the top without making the top 2 steps from the bottom. Making low reflex deliberate moves matter doesn't seem to feed any unfair circles but offsets unfairs zergs which seem to love that sort of thing. To help the newbie we should empower the noobie to search for options that work reliably without respect for bad odds
MO didnt have cooldown on blocks. All the blocking changes MO made after release made the game more zerg friendly and limited low number group play.
Kicking if implemented how I assume will be another feature that will reward numbers more than individual skilled individuals.
Duels will improve but group play will suffer.
Kicking if implemented how I assume will be another feature that will reward numbers more than individual skilled individuals.
Duels will improve but group play will suffer.
Not sure why you say naked when I said half built character. A naked with skill has a good chance in either MO.
Why should a low skilled player, or unfinished character be able to compete with a high skilled player, or fully built character? Unless the player is low skilled obviously. Ludicrous! Skill must matter or the game falls short of it's promises. Dumbing it down is the opposite.
A naked in this game has significantly less chances from having less openings for attacks to land.
I don't think there should be a global time-increase in blocking but I do think there should be a timer in missed parries, to punish players who block too early or just miss-blocks. A couple of seconds should suffice, enough to get a free swing in.
I would much rather they overhaul blocking and have a blocking arc in the direction you are blocking, so front-blocking would have the arc being forward and side-blocking have the arc be at the side, and have less damage taken the closer to the middle of the arc you block. On shields the arc could be wider at the base to emulate the wider hitbox of a shield. Maybe still keep the parry window for the first second or so to reward good reactions.
I would much rather they overhaul blocking and have a blocking arc in the direction you are blocking, so front-blocking would have the arc being forward and side-blocking have the arc be at the side, and have less damage taken the closer to the middle of the arc you block. On shields the arc could be wider at the base to emulate the wider hitbox of a shield. Maybe still keep the parry window for the first second or so to reward good reactions.
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The problem is with the current just spamming meta, when you 1v1 for a keep the spammer will win. Solution make it so you can't move your camera at all.
There is stamina used for blocking, why make things more complicated.
No cooldowns.
No cooldowns.