Balance in tjis game is a complete mess and 90% of THINGS are complete bait and waste of work

[Iloros]

Cant have an mmorpg where 90% of shit thats in it is completely unviable and baits people and then they quit while also getting demolished by zergs.

19 out of 20 fights are unwinnable by one side and unloseable by the other (obviously)

0 outcome variety

50 out of 60 weapons dont work
90% of spells
90% of pets

armors are kinda balanced now they dared to a big balance patch lmao still all those light ones you keep adding are a waste.

75% of races only doable in zvz where your build barely matters anyway, the numbers do.

Most weight classes ages build templates masteries are shit as fuck

People literally all have 80% same masteries and then class specifiv ones and thats it.

Clade gifts taken are all the same

Its essentially an mmorpg with 90% of bait that sucks and then everyone that understands meta is using the 10% and dominates

That by default means 90% of players with preferences towards those 90% of useless things are way less likely to play due to losing all the time and some of them not even understsnding why.

Dude we have like 100+ spells corrupt and lesser heal are 75% of the casts lmao

10 axe heads whens the last time you seen a 2h axe in a good players hand that isnt doub kall?

Cmon man hire Klean or some actual designer current balance designers dont care at all even an outsider would balance this betrer with a week of investigation especially if you have the data which you say you do.

2700>500 in a month btw...

 

[Elijah]

This is why MANA stopped playing. It's just not viable to play as a mage, even in a group of 100. You're relegated to pocket healer and corrupt spam bot, and why would anybody want to play like that? It's all MA's. MA has always been the meta and that's why everyone that's left is playing it - they always played it and they were the only ones that got to consistently have fun. I spent 1000 of the 2000 hours I played FARMING LIKE HELL for the ability to do magic, and all I found was a dumpster fire. It's sad, too. So many ele spells are fookin sick, but entirely useless. I took the stone wall spell only lasting 2 seconds as a bad omen. Thing only stayed up half the amount of time it took to cast. What am I supposed to do with that? lol ggSV

 

[Iloros]

This is why MANA stopped playing. It's just not viable to play as a mage, even in a group of 100. You're relegated to pocket healer and corrupt spam bot, and why would anybody want to play like that? It's all MA's. MA has always been the meta and that's why everyone that's left is playing it - they always played it and they were the only ones that got to consistently have fun. I spent 1000 of the 2000 hours I played FARMING LIKE HELL for the ability to do magic, and all I found was a dumpster fire. It's sad, too. So many ele spells are fookin sick, but entirely useless. I took the stone wall spell only lasting 2 seconds as a bad omen. Thing only stayed up half the amount of time it took to cast. What am I supposed to do with that? lol ggSV

now they nerfed mages again instead of alvarins.

Henrik literally refuses to nerf Alvarins and will make magic do 3 damage per hit before doing that.

 

[Jackdstripper]

Cmon man hire Klean or some actual designer current balance designers dont care at all even an outsider would balance this betrer with a week of investigation especially if you have the data which you say you do.

2700>500 in a month btw...

Klean?..the streamer? Wtf does he know about MO? Hes's played the game for a few weeks here and there at most and is passable at best at pvp. He's also extremely biast towards thursars, specifically melee thursars builds, as he's stated thats the only race he'll ever play.

On the contrary SV needs to stop listening to these clueless, selfserving sporadic MO streamers and get professional game developers that dont have biasts or personal preference.

 

[Iloros]

Klean?..the streamer? Wtf does he know about MO? Hes's played the game for a few weeks here and there at most and is passable at best at pvp. He's also extremely biast towards thursars, specifically melee thursars builds, as he's stated thats the only race he'll ever play.

On the contrary SV needs to stop listening to these clueless, selfserving sporadic MO streamers and get professional game developers that dont have biasts or personal preference.

He's a game designer and actually designs game and knows more about MO2 than SV does LOL

I mean I coulda said myself or yourself but they obv. wont hire me or you so Klean as a game designer with experinece in this game would be good.

 

[Turbizzler]

Eh, While I like Klean, he's not really a game designer. He has almost 0 technical knowledge with any game engine, let a lone basic qualification. He's always been an "ideas guy", where he just throws out ideas(some good, some bad), without understanding engine level technical limitation, or development pipelines. Which is what Game designers need to understand. He's only recently managed to land a role, as Scavlands game designer, which is a small time indie project. But for the past half decade, he self labelled himself a "freelance game designer", which to any professional studio, just reads as a know it all ideas guy, AVOID. The only real Industry experience he has, was with BSG, in public relations and marketing.

Though, almost anyone could walk in off the street, and be better at game design, than Henrik.

 

[Iloros]

Eh, While I like Klean, he's not really a game designer. He has almost 0 technical knowledge with any game engine, let a lone basic qualification. He's always been an "ideas guy", where he just throws out ideas(some good, some bad), without understanding engine level technical limitation, or development pipelines. Which is what Game designers need to understand. He's only recently managed to land a role, as Scavlands game designer, which is a small time indie project. But for the past half decade, he self labelled himself a "freelance game designer", which to any professional studio, just reads as a know it all ideas guy, AVOID. The only real Industry experience he has, was with BSG, in public relations and marketing.

Though, almost anyone could walk in off the street, and be better at game design, than Henrik.

I don't care about the topic or know much about it to give any further input tbh. All I remember was him being a designer and he gave good ideas in my opinion.

 

[Teknique]

Though, almost anyone could walk in off the street, and be better at game design, than Henrik.

This man causes me so much sadness and laughter at the same time hahaha

 

[Emdash]

Though, almost anyone could walk in off the street, and be better at game design, than Henrik.

I was shitposting on MO Discord, and it is quiet enough that it just kind of sat there with nobody saying anything else. So, Seb responded. My post was about how SV needs to take responsibility etc and make a plan (again, yeah, I know.) And Seb's response was basically it's not that deep, they are just some dudes trying to make a game.

BUT it's like, yeah, but you dudes have been trying to make this game for a long ass time? And it keeps flopping in the exact same way. They change many things, they have improved many issues (like server, more or less, NA sever now even...) but I'll be damned if the shit does not follow the same cycle. That's why it really does matter, imo, to have been here for a longer period. I wasn't here at 'the beginning,' but to watch this same shit happen over and over again it's almost fascinating. It's just too bad that MO is something I want to succeed.

I am not being facetious when I say MAKE A PLAN. It's like... make a plan, invite the community in on it and apologize. It might be 'one last trick' to the community, but I don't see how else they are gonna get people to play one more time. They have to do that then actually do it.

I know these people (even Henrik) are not stupid. I know many of the players are not stupid. So it's hard to understand this situation. It leads to conspiratorial thinking, where it's like how is it POSSIBLE for this shit to keep failing so hard? It's almost like they really aren't trying to make a good game. If that wasn't such a stupid thing to do, I would have arrived at that conclusion a long time ago.