Armor normalization

Emdash

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Man, middle weight armor is so trolled atm.

REVERT DRACO or make a medium set that is pierce resist and metal.

Add in another medium set that can be metal and is a more for close fighting.

Would have been nice to have TK and Merc be heavy, add in a medium metal tier and put risar and draco in it.
 

Iloros

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Man, middle weight armor is so trolled atm.

REVERT DRACO or make a medium set that is pierce resist and metal.

Add in another medium set that can be metal and is a more for close fighting.

Would have been nice to have TK and Merc be heavy, add in a medium metal tier and put risar and draco in it.
Hard disagree and I explained multiple times why medium or light armors with plate do not work if people can wear merc they always will if we revert to prepatch 95% of builds can so youll just see merc. Draco is in the best state ever and used plenty but so are all the other armors. Cron Draco was shit and worse than steel merc.
 

Iloros

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Man, middle weight armor is so trolled atm.

REVERT DRACO or make a medium set that is pierce resist and metal.

Add in another medium set that can be metal and is a more for close fighting.

Would have been nice to have TK and Merc be heavy, add in a medium metal tier and put risar and draco in it.
There is 4 armor sets you cant make hald of them only appealing to sheevra hybrids that are broke lmao even they will just rock pansar legs merc plate/tk rest.
 

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Iloros I would just ignore him on balance at this point. Anyone who roles only elf should have their opinion immediately discarded. Dude even has a mounted elf.
 

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Iloros I would just ignore him on balance at this point. Anyone who roles only elf should have their opinion immediately discarded. Dude even has a mounted elf.
Thats like everyone? Hahaha but yeah its annoying when people ignote the argument and just repeat themselves like I explained to you why medium weight steel armors ard nightmare to balance and not needed. 95% of pop easily wear heavy steel and the rest take pansar legs and heavy steel ende. Then at tung you just do cron parts that are light asf.
 

Emdash

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Hard disagree and I explained multiple times why medium or light armors with plate do not work if people can wear merc they always will if we revert to prepatch 95% of builds can so youll just see merc. Draco is in the best state ever and used plenty but so are all the other armors. Cron Draco was shit and worse than steel merc.


I support you guys having sets that suit your build. But guess what, you did. There was a set that suited my build, too, but now it does not exist.

I'm not going to address any of the other wild irrelevant shit you said. Explain to me why they removed light anti-pierce armor and why that is good balance.

I am continuing to reduce the amount of words in my posts. I am trying to write very simply and ask a very simple question. I hope you understand it this time. Please answer with a reason that is not: it had 2 be done cuz 85% of people wore merc.
 

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First off its not that much heavier and risar still exists and is lighter than prepatch draco and better and second of all I explained it already. 95% of builds can easily wear full steel and those that dont make full merc steel and use weaker kegs because legs rarely get hit and give massive amounts of free weight and also you dont hear ppl sneaking up. Quit asking same stuff you are like one of 5 people that prefer old draco.
 

Emdash

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First off its not that much heavier and risar still exists and is lighter than prepatch draco and better and second of all I explained it already. 95% of builds can easily wear full steel and those that dont make full merc steel and use weaker kegs because legs rarely get hit and give massive amounts of free weight and also you dont hear ppl sneaking up. Quit asking same stuff you are like one of 5 people that prefer old draco.

you didn't address my point. It is heavier. It does have less pierce. Why is that OK? There was already an armor like Merc... Merc.

One could approach this debate from many angles, but I am choosing this. The idea is that changes affect more than people think. You talk about elves being OP, but they are really the greatest example of this.

I do not wish to continue this tho. I trust people reading this will come to their own conclusions.
 

Iloros

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you didn't address my point. It is heavier. It does have less pierce. Why is that OK? There was already an armor like Merc... Merc.

One could approach this debate from many angles, but I am choosing this. The idea is that changes affect more than people think. You talk about elves being OP, but they are really the greatest example of this.

I do not wish to continue this tho. I trust people reading this will come to their own conclusions.
Its okay coz thats the way people wear it if it was still light asf lol. But sure would be better if ithad more pierce maybe 1 less slash I agree.
 

Emdash

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Iloros I would just ignore him on balance at this point. Anyone who roles only elf should have their opinion immediately discarded. Dude even has a mounted elf.

also, I've been posting on this forum for like 5 years. I am shocked that your memory is so bad that you really think that. I also am not gonna apologize for having an elf or for using a mount. No idea what you are mad at me for.
 

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also, I've been posting on this forum for like 5 years. I am shocked that your memory is so bad that you really think that. I also am not gonna apologize for having an elf or for using a mount. No idea what you are mad at me for.
 

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Iloros

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also, I've been posting on this forum for like 5 years. I am shocked that your memory is so bad that you really think that. I also am not gonna apologize for having an elf or for using a mount. No idea what you are mad at me for.
Alvarin mounted is combo of 2 most op and cowardly and defended builds. Its a joke really but you are playing a giga op build.
 

Emdash

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Alvarin mounted is combo of 2 most op and cowardly and defended builds. Its a joke really but you are playing a giga op build.

it's not my only build was the point. Review my post history for my thoughts on the aspects you believe are OP.

It's best to use logic when discussing things, opposed to talking shit.

An interesting fact: I had my friend make a piece of Pansar Husk Risar soldier to see how good it was. He made banded and RS and there was only a slight difference in pierce, like, less than normalized difference, but massive weight. Metal helps, for sure, but something is off with the way they are mathing these things out.

It's hard to not lob insults back at you guys, and that's why I don't wanna discuss. It's a waste of time, especially considering you have already conceded that I am right twice, even if you quickly went back to your old persona.

As for MortalEnjoyer, it is like how you go hot and cold on the game. I never know when you are gonna like my posts or when you are gonna rage out. You should try reading who the poster is before hitting like.

Peace... and I still hope they do something better than what they have done with armor.
 

Iloros

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it's not my only build was the point. Review my post history for my thoughts on the aspects you believe are OP.

It's best to use logic when discussing things, opposed to talking shit.

An interesting fact: I had my friend make a piece of Pansar Husk Risar soldier to see how good it was. He made banded and RS and there was only a slight difference in pierce, like, less than normalized difference, but massive weight. Metal helps, for sure, but something is off with the way they are mathing these things out.

It's hard to not lob insults back at you guys, and that's why I don't wanna discuss. It's a waste of time, especially considering you have already conceded that I am right twice, even if you quickly went back to your old persona.

As for MortalEnjoyer, it is like how you go hot and cold on the game. I never know when you are gonna like my posts or when you are gonna rage out. You should try reading who the poster is before hitting like.

Peace... and I still hope they do something better than what they have done with armor.
well you just wrote a bunch of nothing here basically.