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What I’m asking though is it not better than the mo 1 system where once you hit 5 murdercounts you were locked out of towns forever and also lost 20% of your stats or whatever

It was better in mo1. You could be perma red and access banks in towns. Now i cant even do anything in towns because im detested/perma red.
 
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Albanjo Dravae

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To be fair, it deserves the negative reviews, they are the honest state of the game. I was very enthusiastic about the game and promoted it to my friends in beta, but they decided to wait a bit. I cannot recommend it to them anymore. That is on SV.

And the game had several months to change. It mostly changed for the worse, at least balance-wise.
Same i managed to get a bunch of my buddys that refused to give starvault another chance into the Game just to be able to play in haven for 2 weeks and when they finally can get into myrland game has less features than pre-release, this shit is borderline scam.
 

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Looking away and pretending nothing happened is your logic? I mean you can play the passive fanboi role, i've seen many noobs on that boat and hitting a brick wall not long after.

Maybe people feel like griefing noobs because SV won't aknowledge problematics nor dialogue or even take players feedback into consideration, they don't have to, they don't and they definitely need to.

I don't see anything wrong with people giving bad reviews for a game that promised something that aint delivering.

And yeah maybe you are new to SV's way of doing things but it seems the only way they understand player's perspectives is when they truly show them what's up.
They are taking feedback into consideration. Its just not something you agree with so you're going full reeee. You've been around long enough, I'm surprised its hasn't even been a month and you're already hitting rock bottom. Lower your expectations and you may find yourself less disappointed.

And the call to grief noobs is just weird. Its like you need validation for doing it. We griefed noobs in MO1 for no reason, why would it be any different now? Bc Henrik made a change you didn't like?


Ok??


Your friends can play on the main server btw. The queue isn't that bad. Youre just complaining to complain at this point.
 
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Albanjo Dravae

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Is it actually that bad compared to mo 1 stat loss and being locked out of all towns? Something has to give right, before you could kill indefinitely?

I’m not a fan of being forced to all res at gk either but the current system is also insanely red friendly. Do we as a community not see that or are we that myopic. Are we so pathetically entitled?

given that I’ve seen how disgusting and ungrateful most people are I’d say the answer is yes
Not accessing towns for perma negative standing dudes was a fair tradeoff when u had housing and red priests. Lets be honests here making kran and gk the kindergarden playground for all the red" public has to be the most narrow minded bullshit they could come out with.
Planning to add redpriests to keeps get the fuck out.
 

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It was better in mo1. You could be perma red and access banks in towns. Now i cant even do anything in towns because im detested/perma red.
How do you mean? Mohki red bank? Because the guards would kos you if you were 5 murdercounts.
 

Albanjo Dravae

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They are taking feedback into consideration. Its just not something you agree with so you're going full reeee. You've been around long enough, I'm surprised its hasn't even been a month and you're already hitting rock bottom. Lower your expectations and you may find yourself less disappointed.

And the call to grief noobs is just weird. Its like you need validation for doing it. We griefed noobs in MO1 for no reason, why would it be any different now? Bc Henrik made a change you didn't like?


Ok??


Your friends can play on the main server btw. The queue isn't that bad. Youre just complaining to complain at this point.

Whos feedback are they getting to consider lmao some random ass streamers that can't distinguish their ass from their elbow?

Believe me my expectations couldn't be lower.
I didn't make a call for griefing noobs i'll just continue to play like i do despite the moronic efforts to deliver "balance" into the game. You tell me i'm going nutz cuz of one change they did, well it's not one thing it's a shitshow of half baked shit. You may like it and support it, i feel it's an insult to the community to add content the way they do. I'm not against the balancing of non concensual PVP and other problematics aslong as we get shit thats been planned and designed, not just some arbitrary restrictions with promises of future content. Keep drinking that koolaid.
 
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Looking away and pretending nothing happened is your logic? I mean you can play the passive fanboi role, i've seen many noobs on that boat and hitting a brick wall not long after.

Maybe people feel like griefing noobs because SV won't aknowledge problematics nor dialogue or even take players feedback into consideration, they don't have to, they don't and they definitely need to.

I don't see anything wrong with people giving bad reviews for a game that promised something that aint delivering.

And yeah maybe you are new to SV's way of doing things but it seems the only way they understand player's perspectives is when they truly show them what's up.
I've given SV tons of negative feedback over the past years. I've made many threads voicing my opinion on changes i disagree with. But I've never said some dumb shit like
It's a win win situation, Tony gets griefed out of the game and SV don't get money, what a best possible outcome.

There is a big difference between disagreeing and giving feedback and saying something like that.
 

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Not accessing towns for perma negative standing dudes was a fair tradeoff when u had housing and red priests. Lets be honests here making kran and gk the kindergarden playground for all the red" public has to be the most narrow minded bullshit they could come out with.
Planning to add redpriests to keeps get the fuck out.
I think the timing of this was pretty bad. Maybe just move the priests farther to like tindrem/pig farm level. Game isn’t ready yet this will look totally different with tc. In mo 1 people didn’t rez at red priests once guild priests became a thing. So this will eventually be a non-issue
 

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I've given SV tons of negative feedback over the past years. I've made many threads voicing my opinion on changes i disagree with. But I've never said some dumb shit like


There is a big difference between disagreeing and giving feedback and saying something like that.
You can disagree and give all the negative feedback u want but won't change the chronic behavior of making half baked shit.
I mean is this a new problematic? Just a new SV's inherited vice? Long story short no, it's not.
People quitting the Game might seem the only language they understand or we hope they understand, till Henrik says it's a niche game and it's not ment for everyone to like lmao.
And it's the bad design that makes noobs quit not players fault.
 

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I think the timing of this was pretty bad. Maybe just move the priests farther to like tindrem/pig farm level. Game isn’t ready yet this will look totally different with tc. In mo 1 people didn’t rez at red priests once guild priests became a thing. So this will eventually be a non-issue
TC is not even worth to mention it aint in the horizon, part of the promises of future development doesn't change the fact shit lacks design.
 

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Looking away and pretending nothing happened is your logic? I mean you can play the passive fanboi role, i've seen many noobs on that boat and hitting a brick wall not long after.

Maybe people feel like griefing noobs because SV won't aknowledge problematics nor dialogue or even take players feedback into consideration, they don't have to, they don't and they definitely need to.

I don't see anything wrong with people giving bad reviews for a game that promised something that aint delivering.

And yeah maybe you are new to SV's way of doing things but it seems the only way they understand player's perspectives is when they truly show them what's up.
People can give bad reviews as they please. What I'm saying is there is a subset of people in these hardcore gaming communities that are rabid and willing to go overboard because of TEMPORARY things. Servers not working, temporary. Red priests being removed from towns, temporary. Should they have made this change with TC and placed priests? Of course they should have. But this shouldn't be a green light for people to burn their own home down. If you want to grief because thats how you play then by all means do it, that's part of the charm of MO2. If you think that by joining the griefers and spending hours outside of a gy or town murdering obvious noobs all you are doing is shooting yourself in the foot. Like I said, foresight.

I'll reiterate because I don't think you understood my post but you can and should voice your opinion on issues with the games balance ect. And you saying that SV doesn't take feedback into opinion might have been true 8 years ago with MO1 but they've definitely improved their abilities since then. I mean like others said in the thread within 2 hours of the change Henrik proposed a change that would fix alot of peoples woes.

You just need to calm down, take a couple breaths, and touch some grass.
 
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What I'm saying is there is a subset of people in these hardcore gaming communities that are rabid and willing to go overboard because of TEMPORARY things. Servers not working, temporary. Red priests being removed from towns, temporary.
The issue is if your game is going to launch this unfinished and need this much temporary garbage, it shouldn't have launched. It needed actual TC, an actual not garbage standing system, the ability to have a population and not screw 75% of the players, etc.

I'm pissed that I didnt even get to play the game yet and they are already ruining it. You can be maximum khurite standing, and if you are 6 mc from killing some tindremic heathens, enjoy your 20 min walk back to vadda from the priest. Because the poorly made standing system that you have maximum khurite standing with, doesnt let you res in a khurite town anyway, even tho the khurite tribves love you. Not that anyone would have max standing because the way you get standing sucks and is also unfinished. And getting any amount of PVP pretty much garuntees you will be red everywhere, because theres no interesting ways to get standing back. And then your totally screwed, because being able to live outside of towns isnt even in the game yet. And doing anything from GK is am assive waste of time, so thats not worth living in. Which leaves the entire pvp community an entire 1 town they can play from. If they arent just abusing blue guild mates or paying to win with multi sub liek every intelligent player is.
 

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People can give bad reviews as they please. What I'm saying is there is a subset of people in these hardcore gaming communities that are rabid and willing to go overboard because of TEMPORARY things. Servers not working, temporary. Red priests being removed from towns, temporary. Should they have made this change with TC and placed priests? Of course they should have. But this shouldn't be a green light for people to burn their own home down. If you want to grief because thats how you play then by all means do it, that's part of the charm of MO2. If you think that by joining the griefers and spending hours outside of a gy or town murdering obvious noobs all you are doing is shooting yourself in the foot. Like I said, foresight.

I'll reiterate because I don't think you understood my post but you can and should voice your opinion on issues with the games balance ect. And you saying that SV doesn't take feedback into opinion might have been true 8 years ago with MO1 but they've definitely improved their abilities since then. I mean like others said in the thread within 2 hours of the change Henrik proposed a change that would fix alot of peoples woes.

You just need to calm down, take a couple breaths, and touch some grass.
Im perfectly calm lmao :3
The issue is if your game is going to launch this unfinished and need this much temporary garbage, it shouldn't have launched. It needed actual TC, an actual not garbage standing system, the ability to have a population and not screw 75% of the players, etc.

I'm pissed that I didnt even get to play the game yet and they are already ruining it. You can be maximum khurite standing, and if you are 6 mc from killing some tindremic heathens, enjoy your 20 min walk back to vadda from the priest. Because the poorly made standing system that you have maximum khurite standing with, doesnt let you res in a khurite town anyway, even tho the khurite tribves love you. Not that anyone would have max standing because the way you get standing sucks and is also unfinished. And getting any amount of PVP pretty much garuntees you will be red everywhere, because theres no interesting ways to get standing back. And then your totally screwed, because being able to live outside of towns isnt even in the game yet. And doing anything from GK is am assive waste of time, so thats not worth living in. Which leaves the entire pvp community an entire 1 town they can play from. If they arent just abusing blue guild mates or paying to win with multi sub liek every intelligent player is.
People assume reds are noob griefers but u can get red on a few hours of small-mid scale PVP, go figure.
 
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Go drop a nice negative steam review for SV if you havent already. You can refund if ur lucky. $ is the only language SV will understand, so negative reviews, and people quitting, hurt their income, and promote making changes that dont suck.


Too bad if you are red you still get screwed by this update, even if you are max standing and should be able to res in town. You can be +100 Khurite favor and still cant res at bakti if you have 6 mc. Awesome well thought out system.

Parcels wont give mc back, only standing.

Ah yeah that doesn't sound right at all lol. Oh well. Give it time.
 

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It was better in mo1. You could be perma red and access banks in towns. Now i cant even do anything in towns because im detested/perma red.
I actually have to agree with this to some point.

Meduli and Vadda are the first two towns that pop up in my head where you could access a bank even if you were red.
 

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Justifying shitty game design saying that there usted to be statloss Lol. No entitlement besides paying for a game and expect to deliver shit. But don't worry having to walk a Lil longer or multiclient ress for murdering every poor flower picker cunt Is going to be fun as fuck.
Not trying to justify just taking a stab at how "hardcore" the PvP'rs of today are.
The entitlement comes from players thinking that their playstyle is more important than anyone else's this happens on both sides, like the talk of pvp toggle.
You pay for the game that SV puts out, your $40 doesn't give you creative privileges although I think a council of players from all playstyles could help with these kinds of decisions.
 
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Not trying to justify just taking a stab at how "hardcore" the PvP'rs of today are.
The entitlement comes from players thinking that their playstyle is more important than anyone else's this happens on both sides, like the talk of pvp toggle.
You pay for the game that SV puts out, your $40 doesn't give you creative privileges although I think a council of players from all playstyles could help with these kinds of decisions.
Whats hardcore about being punished for winning. Sounds like you are using the porno definition of hardcore instead of a traditional definition which is dedication and commitment.

PvPers PvE better and more then any player that calls them self a PvEr so we know better then so you would have PvPers telling you how every aspect of the game is actually played.

We just play the game better in all aspects which PvP is one. You guys never leave town so you dont see how most of the game is played.
 
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Whats hardcore about being punished for winning. Sounds like you are using the porno definition of hardcore instead of a traditional definition which is dedication and commitment.

PvPers PvE better and more then any player that calls them self a PvEr so we know better then so you would have PvPers telling you how every aspect of the game is actually played.

We just play the game better in all aspects which PvP is one. You guys never leave town so you dont see how most of the game is played.
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Save some pussy for the rest of us.
 
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Wardens closest priest is fucking Bakti from MohKi castle -_- luckily we can rez but fuck this shit. They needed TC priests in game before this change or to have this change before launch.
 
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Adding red priests outside keeps roflmao these kids are stoopid 🤣🤣 cant contest keeps but give em More resources, housing doesn't have group support but keeps do have guild chests and now red priests, why do these dumbass kids wanna turn everything into a zerg. Housing half Made, keeps without siege, half Made, PVP Is bye bye unless wardec or arranged fights. Idk these dudes have poop in their head, its like they don't think it through. Just forcing people to multiclient instead of making a world that shouldn't force u to do and be one thing at a time for capitalizing dog ass small pieces of content they make shit grindy af, and Henrik was even justifying u dont get to reset clades, get the fuck out dude, dog ass judgement for implementing shit.

don't we have a quote of henrik saying clades could be reset for a small fee? :eek:

Like I said I hate to see that you all are boycotting, but I finally get to play, so I'm just kind of enjoying being on the game atm lol.
 
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