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Nobody said "don't polish the game". THAT IS A GIVEN. Choosing thievery doesn't mean don't polish the game. The devs already make time for polish during development, look at the roadmap. They will polish the game, stop worrying about polish. You're arguing against an argument that was never...

See, those things you mention are just more of what is already there, or slight alterations, improvements and polish. They're not really adding anything massively significant. Yes, we all agree the game could be polished, that is a given, and they do take time to do that. Beyond that, when...

I'm being disingenuous? So, i've never heard of it. That is just a fact. I know many other people who have also never heard of it. When i tell people what game i'm playing, nobody knows what game this is. If i mentioned say, eve? People would know. Warhammer? They'll have heard of it. The...

Okay, so you're saying no one cared. Now you need to prove people didn't care, or didn't know. I could easily say that people simply didn't know about the game. That the advertising campaign was bad. Why would i say that? Because i didn't know about MO1 at all. I never even heard of it. Now i...

I just explained that there are other factors that could've lead to the downfall of MO1. You cannot solely pin the failure or success of a game on one system, when it includes one means of play. Perhaps the magic was boring. Perhaps the melee was bad. Perhaps it was a bunch of things at once...

Because thievery taps in to an entirely new audience. Because mechanics based around thievery would tap into a style of game that is host to some of the most popular franchises of all time. I already went through the list before on a different thread, but just type in "stealth games" into...

I think it is more important than you think it is. It is not a niche playstyle at all. In basically all RPGs, in a fantasy setting, i've most often seen some way of playing a rogue type class. You have game series that are based on thievery. You have lots of games based around stealth, and a...

"more important things" Like new armor? A new creature or dungeon? lol Just because it isn't important to you, does not mean it isn't important to a lot of people.

A handful?? It is literally a key archtype to the medieval fantasy? It is astounding it isn't in the game already tbh. How many people play rogues on world of warcraft? How many stealth games exist? This is NOT niche at all, there are games and genres BUILT on mechanics like this.

Look at literally everything on the list. Nothing on that list largely negatively impacts how another player may play the game in any significant way that other skills don't already do. You look at all the magic schools, and nothing there is really any different from what mages can already do...

I knew this is what had happened. I KNEW it. See, the people who dont' intend to ever play thief DO NOT WANT THIEF. They have a vested interest in not making the game harder for themselves, so of course.. What do they do??? They vote 1 for thievery. This is why thievery can't be subject to a...

As far as Henrik was saying on stream (not sure which stream it was), he said thievery would come hand in hand with assassination.. So bascially.. The whole rogue style of play would've been with thievery. They were talking of having lighter armor increasing weakspot chance with weapons. I...

Right, but i feel like when the market is so bad, being red is too hard. Like, reds should have a market in their red town, but they don't. In turn, this just results in a downward spiral until everyone is blue. You need reds to be in the game for player events to occur. Reds are important to...

This vote was clearly fake.. Nobody voted for half of the stuff on this list. I'm expected to believe "new creature" won over thievery? New armor set ? LOL New armor set was the least exciting thing on the entire list, and we don't even know what the armor set would look like.. Who would...

Good point, but... I would feel nervous about going to a guarded town as a red name when i've got something to sell. Also, there is more of a team mentality. If you're in with a bunch of reds, anyone can attack anyone, but in a guarded town, you're the only person they can freely attack.

"No punishment for murder" LOL It takes 8 hours for 1 murder count to go down. 48 hours when they're offline. For a measly hundred murders, you're never getting back into town unless you play for 700 ingame hours... SEVEN-HUNDRED INGAME HOURS. Now, sure, the guards may not attack you but...

Right, i didn't put 8 hours into each murder though. It can take less than a minute to go from deciding to kill someone to then killing them. Now you may say i deprived that played of 8 hours of their time.. That entirely depends what they were carrying. If it is evaluated at the time taken...

Obviously i'm not deleting my character, i'll just keep murdering because i've got no choice now. I mean, really.. It is the logic of it being like a point of no return. I thought blues wanted less murderers, i now have nothing but murder. It is like the real life justice system.. You put...

So.. As someone who has murdered over a hundred people, someone informed me this would take around 700-800 hours of ingame time to go down. At this point i feel like waiting for it to go down is pointless, and i should just keep going as i am. What i'm saying is, this murder count is just...

Right, but any increase in muscle size will always decrease range of movement, even if it is a small amount, simply due to there being more mass.