Regarding the Recent Ban Wave for Exploits

Hodo

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I am just going to say it.

This is good and all but damage is done. People have been allowed to exploit this and other bugs for so long that the economy is a joke.

Between the launch fiasco of large numbers of people stuck in the queue for days on end and unable to get to the mainland, while other groups farmed unlimited respawning unresponsive risars to get their keeps and assets. And others still were using Haven to farm hundreds of gold and transfer it mainland before the gold nerf hit of 3g worth of assets.

THEN we had the portal farming of the Mino king, and Sator Vessel not to mention several other bosses that went unchecked for weeks if not months.

THEN we had the unlimited flux farming which if it had been left alone would have balanced itself out, instead you nerf the hell out of it, but there are accounts out there with literal banks filled with flux still.

THEN there was the sponge farming that sold for way more than it should have that made tens of thousands of gold for some people and is still able to be exploited by a few intrepid people.

THEN you had the trinket farming, which at launch of that item, they were plentiful and broken, where you were getting HIGH level attributes on base level trinkets, instead of retroactively nerfing them down to their correct stats you brought the metal up to the correct level... lol With the amount of gold in the economy that did not matter.

THEN you had the boss farming with pets that went on so long that entire guilds were doing it daily if not hourly banking thousands of gold and high end materials.

THEN you had instant fishing exploit, where you could yank any fish out of the water with out playing the minigame of fishing.

THEN you had the bag exploit which you just acted on....

I am sure there are a few I am missing. But at this point when will you realize that an asset reset is going to fix more than it will hurt. You say you want to fix things before EPIC launch, well at this point EPIC launch should be your reset button.
 

Rhias

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I am just going to say it.

This is good and all but damage is done. People have been allowed to exploit this and other bugs for so long that the economy is a joke.

Between the launch fiasco of large numbers of people stuck in the queue for days on end and unable to get to the mainland, while other groups farmed unlimited respawning unresponsive risars to get their keeps and assets. And others still were using Haven to farm hundreds of gold and transfer it mainland before the gold nerf hit of 3g worth of assets.

THEN we had the portal farming of the Mino king, and Sator Vessel not to mention several other bosses that went unchecked for weeks if not months.

THEN we had the unlimited flux farming which if it had been left alone would have balanced itself out, instead you nerf the hell out of it, but there are accounts out there with literal banks filled with flux still.

THEN there was the sponge farming that sold for way more than it should have that made tens of thousands of gold for some people and is still able to be exploited by a few intrepid people.

THEN you had the trinket farming, which at launch of that item, they were plentiful and broken, where you were getting HIGH level attributes on base level trinkets, instead of retroactively nerfing them down to their correct stats you brought the metal up to the correct level... lol With the amount of gold in the economy that did not matter.

THEN you had the boss farming with pets that went on so long that entire guilds were doing it daily if not hourly banking thousands of gold and high end materials.

THEN you had instant fishing exploit, where you could yank any fish out of the water with out playing the minigame of fishing.

THEN you had the bag exploit which you just acted on....

I am sure there are a few I am missing. But at this point when will you realize that an asset reset is going to fix more than it will hurt. You say you want to fix things before EPIC launch, well at this point EPIC launch should be your reset button.
You forgot the Halloween event, with extreme drops for the first 24 hours, that then got nerfed into the ground.
 

Emdash

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i mean people have keeps bought out with haven gold and theres not even sieging, that says everything.

just a diff game tho. The exploiting is sad, but it shouldn't ruin the community. Should def fuck with exploiters tho.

It's like OK you put 1000 hours on dueling and you're duping, GG. SV doesn't understand how to make good early game content when a lot of people come into it expecting something like that. If there was low level content to keep people interested in the game and people buying their rocks or w/e it would function and even out. The gold sink idea is stupid because it just vacuums gold. It's like 'eventually...' it's better to back that shit with rock or wood or something. Ask THE SOVIET UNION. CHINA.
 

Gnidex

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They won't wipe because they know they cannot fix the dupes.
That is why even if they wiped, we would end up right where we are.

There is no interest in a long term healthy economy here, it's all about snatching as many box purchases as possible before they inevitably see subs will not cut it and move to f2p.

That is why they always mention Haven improvements. Just to keep people playing 2+ hours to avoid refunds before they see all the bugs scurrying around.
 
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Orrn

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I'm not playing currently but from just from my limited exposure the bag thing seemed to be widely known for months, and with the large amount of people banned it must have been sent to sv a long time ago.
If the effect of this exploit was terrible enough and widespread enough to warrant the number of bans that they seem to have given out how could it have taken starvault this long to act on it?
If you want people to continue playing the game they have to have confidence that there is an underlying sense of fairness to it.
 

NYOCHTAR

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I am just going to say it.

This is good and all but damage is done. People have been allowed to exploit this and other bugs for so long that the economy is a joke.

Between the launch fiasco of large numbers of people stuck in the queue for days on end and unable to get to the mainland, while other groups farmed unlimited respawning unresponsive risars to get their keeps and assets. And others still were using Haven to farm hundreds of gold and transfer it mainland before the gold nerf hit of 3g worth of assets.

THEN we had the portal farming of the Mino king, and Sator Vessel not to mention several other bosses that went unchecked for weeks if not months.

THEN we had the unlimited flux farming which if it had been left alone would have balanced itself out, instead you nerf the hell out of it, but there are accounts out there with literal banks filled with flux still.

THEN there was the sponge farming that sold for way more than it should have that made tens of thousands of gold for some people and is still able to be exploited by a few intrepid people.

THEN you had the trinket farming, which at launch of that item, they were plentiful and broken, where you were getting HIGH level attributes on base level trinkets, instead of retroactively nerfing them down to their correct stats you brought the metal up to the correct level... lol With the amount of gold in the economy that did not matter.

THEN you had the boss farming with pets that went on so long that entire guilds were doing it daily if not hourly banking thousands of gold and high end materials.

THEN you had instant fishing exploit, where you could yank any fish out of the water with out playing the minigame of fishing.

THEN you had the bag exploit which you just acted on....

I am sure there are a few I am missing. But at this point when will you realize that an asset reset is going to fix more than it will hurt. You say you want to fix things before EPIC launch, well at this point EPIC launch should be your reset button.
THEN you had Ultemeki release that spawned the boss every 30 minutes, which was then changed to an extended time. Don't worry about this one though, because after 48 hours of Omerta and Bear holding down the boss area, with Levia and Nightmare sprinkled in between, SV increased the spawn timer and REMOVED ALL ULTEMEKI DROPS FROM EVERY PLAYERS INVENTORY MAKING THE PREVIOUS 48 HOURS WORTHLESS. Crazy how SV takes action on this, but leaves the stuff you mentioned in game for weeks. I wonder what's different about this....hm...
 
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Albanjo Dravae

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THEN you had Ultemeki release that spawned the boss every 30 minutes, which was then changed to an extended time. Don't worry about this one though, because after 48 hours of Omerta and Bear holding down the boss area, with Levia and Nightmare sprinkled in between, SV increased the spawn timer and REMOVED ALL ULTEMEKI DROPS FROM EVERY PLAYERS INVENTORY MAKING THE PREVIOUS 48 HOURS WORTHLESS. Crazy how SV takes action on this, but leaves the stuff you mentioned in game for weeks. I wonder what's different about this....hm...
Lol and they keep doing it, it was trinckets before. They prob spent more time fixing the shit than making the entire patch, completly negligent.
 
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Emdash

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They won't wipe because they know they cannot fix the dupes.
That is why even if they wiped, we would end up right where we are.

There is no interest in a long term healthy economy here, it's all about snatching as many box purchases as possible before they inevitably see subs will not cut it and move to f2p.

That is why they always mention Haven improvements. Just to keep people playing 2+ hours to avoid refunds before they see all the bugs scurrying around.


Tag Eternal. haha.
 

Tzone

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Need a server wipe. Like so many people were being exploited against for months without SV being able to or just ignoring the exploits. So if SV launches a broken game and leaves it broken for a year with massive exploits that got people keeps.

Then whos fault is it that people leveled the playing field with exploiters? Its good that they finally fixed bags and ect... but you caught a bunch of victims of exploiters that felt like after months of being exploited against with SV not solving the issues that they needed to level the playing field.
SV defiantly overreached in this scorched earth tactics but they at the end of the day hate their players as players over time realize how bad of a game dev company and publisher SV is.

End of the day it was Star Vaults fault that their game did not work properly. Some punishment is warranted but damn its pretty insane that you just shoot your self in the foot this way. If SV did right by the players in the first place then people wouldn't have forced to level the playing field.
 
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Gnidex

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Need a server wipe. Like so many people were being exploited against for months without SV being able to or just ignoring the exploits. So if SV launches a broken game and leaves it broken for a year with massive exploits that got people keeps.

Then whos fault is it that people leveled the playing field with exploiters? Its good that they finally fixed bags and ect... but you caught a bunch of victims of exploiters that felt like after months of being exploited against with SV not solving the issues that they needed to level the playing field.
SV defiantly overreached in this scorched earth tactics but they at the end of the day hate their players as players over time realize how bad of a game dev company and publisher SV is.

End of the day it was Star Vaults fault that their game did not work properly. Some punishment is warranted but damn its pretty insane that you just shoot your self in the foot this way. If SV did right by the players in the first place then people wouldn't have forced to level the playing field.
Right now they are insane by definition. Doing exactly the same crap as with MO1 and expecting different results.

That's what happens when the CEO of a company roleplays a game designer.
 

NYOCHTAR

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SV, please read the comments in this thread and think about how to turn this around. I know you bros don't want to do a wipe, but something needs to be done to balance the economy. People that play 4 hours a day cannot keep up with the gold inflation from these exploits without afk hitting granum for months straight.
 

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SV, please read the comments in this thread and think about how to turn this around. I know you bros don't want to do a wipe, but something needs to be done to balance the economy. People that play 4 hours a day cannot keep up with the gold inflation from these exploits without afk hitting granum for months straight.
If you watched the stream, there's so much copium. Henrik has banned every single cheater from the game and all the gold is removed is the official party line right now.
 

NYOCHTAR

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If you watched the stream, there's so much copium. Henrik has banned every single cheater from the game and all the gold is removed is the official party line right now.
Yeah we heard that infinite times prior to the most recent band wave. I have no idea if there are more bugs or exploits out there now, but what I do know is that any new content will be exploited early and exploited often.
 

Tzone

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So we getting a wipe or what?

IDK why not if you are going this far why not do a relaunch after you beta test UE5 release? Relaunch after you fix the game would be the best for the long term of the game.

Yeah the joke was Exploit early, exploit often and when SV previously never did anything to stop exploits and a lot of the time condone them like the magic casting bug exploit, and the spiritist group farming exploit it pushed a lot of people to exploit because everyone exploited against them.


If everyone is exploiting against you, you either end up quiting or end up getting even. Really too heavy handed and why I think they went crazy with the bans as the reason so many people were exploiting is because SV forced people to exploit in order to make such a broken game balanced.
Im am glad they finally fixed a lot of it but damage has been done, they should really grant some amnesty in the form of temp bans since they neglected the issue for so long it forced many people who would never ever exploit to have to in order to keep up with all the dupers and baggers.
 
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Albanjo Dravae

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Need a server wipe. Like so many people were being exploited against for months without SV being able to or just ignoring the exploits. So if SV launches a broken game and leaves it broken for a year with massive exploits that got people keeps.

Then whos fault is it that people leveled the playing field with exploiters? Its good that they finally fixed bags and ect... but you caught a bunch of victims of exploiters that felt like after months of being exploited against with SV not solving the issues that they needed to level the playing field.
SV defiantly overreached in this scorched earth tactics but they at the end of the day hate their players as players over time realize how bad of a game dev company and publisher SV is.

End of the day it was Star Vaults fault that their game did not work properly. Some punishment is warranted but damn its pretty insane that you just shoot your self in the foot this way. If SV did right by the players in the first place then people wouldn't have forced to level the playing field.

If they are not going to take all the exploited shit out of the game or wipe they might aswell test content before they release it, they have the infrastructure to roll an open server and they should be able to sort feedback.
Here we are patch after patch the same story.
 

Amadman

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A padded room.
If they are not going to take all the exploited shit out of the game or wipe they might aswell test content before they release it, they have the infrastructure to roll an open server and they should be able to sort feedback.
Here we are patch after patch the same story.
Most people that would have done other exploits would surely have taken advantage of the bags as well. So you would think that the bag bans would clear a lot of ill gotten items from the game.

If they continue being this hard on exploiters then it should limit the amount of people that are willing to do such things in the future as well.


But I do agree that there should be an open test server. It could even be considered an extra for subbing (once that starts).

The closed one has proven not to be effective so many times in the past.
 
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