Eating should auto-stop before getting overweight!

Icegoten

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I agree with this. Unless I misunderstood something a player told me they were warned that they were going to lose weight and they had to die to get the new weight class. I think the same should be true for getting fat.
 
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move your character quickly when it warns you to cancel eating. It didn't used to. Jump in place if you want to lose weight. Can always break off pieces of like 25 and eat them instead of just stuffing your face w/ like 100-150 units and hoping for the best lol, but yea losing wt is not hard with jumping. Esp if you just barely go over.

Also the fact that you can start at whatever wt (now except for two), right at the breakpoint... I mean we'd be watching hp to determine whether we were gonna go over or not if we wanted to go 'full stout.' It's a number that you can write down, and yea you can gain weight with stam food. I dunno why people think you can't. However, then you learn about the glorious LOSING WEIGHT by EXPENDING STAM.
 
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Tzone

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The whole reserve and food system is just stupid and a unnecessary tedium to add false depth to the game.
 
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The whole reserve and food system is just stupid and a unnecessary tedium to add false depth to the game.
why not mining, why not feeding horses, why not pvp? They are all their own thing, the idea (said this like 100x but will put it here, too) to get different types of people doing things and helping each other. Once they add in more mats, or if you wanna mail me some rice/etc in whatever town... I'll make you some battle snacks and you won't have to sit down. - shrug -

It's mean to simulate realism. You should be bringing food w/ you ideally esp stam food. But yea this is on the level, imo, of remove full loot. Another system that helped the overall depth of MO removed? You get a more streamlined, wack game.
 

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why not mining, why not feeding horses, why not pvp? They are all their own thing, the idea (said this like 100x but will put it here, too) to get different types of people doing things and helping each other. Once they add in more mats, or if you wanna mail me some rice/etc in whatever town... I'll make you some battle snacks and you won't have to sit down. - shrug -

It's mean to simulate realism. You should be bringing food w/ you ideally esp stam food. But yea this is on the level, imo, of remove full loot. Another system that helped the overall depth of MO removed? You get a more streamlined, wack game.
Its not realistic at all. The only reason its in game according to Henrik is to counter zergs which it does not do. His idea is that zergs will die alot and then have low reserves which the opposite of this is true.

The reserve system only really empowers people who have the advantage when you think of it balancing out someone respawning. But the main issue is that the reserve system punishes your just playing the game. Kill 18 risars on a MA and I have half greybar from full reserves. It takes away from the game and needs to be toned down a lot.

If you die thats ok because its a punishment for losing, but if you are just playing the game the grey bar is just another tedious time sink that forces you to spend time AFK to fix. And you still have to rest even with the the best food.

Just a worthless unfun system that is a hindrance on the game.
 
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My PoV is that Zergs are life. You don't counter zergs, counter balancing zergs, all these new 'skill based mechanics' like parry windows actually have made the game worse. If you can raise up an army good on ya. Obviously, there should be some play, some tactics... but because people are mad at being zerged, which happens all the time to anyone who isn't rolling w/ a 100 person gaming community, they want to change the game?

Henrik says a lot of things, but I mean food was in the game when I started. Back when etherworld wasn't lala land where you did supermagik and ported to your home priest, if you wanted. Back when you could only chat w/ the etherworld when you died.

You can even eat while riding your horse now, right? Pretty sure I've done it. Eat and feed. Ride a bit away and chomp some food. They made MA more stam punishing because they don't have a way to balance it. This is bad IMO, and they've done that w/ many things. Outside of MA, is there a problem? And yea, it does help the players who are near to supplies, but nobody ever thought of something like... instead of having a molva w/ boulders, bring one with food, too. haha. There are thoughtful ways around this. It's another prep, true, but I JUST WANNA PVP is not a valid excuse IMO. Cuz other people DON'T WANNA PVP and yet they get owned all the time due to the nature of the game. Food is like armor or weps or mounts or whatever, it's another thing you have to manage. And if you wanna stay tip top in reserves bring snacks, is all I can say.

And then they nerfed PIGS loool, they might as well just remove them from town and leave them as they are, or remove them from the game completely, because they can't make the cooking system interesting they had to make it so you have to walk out of town to get good meat zzz. I'm telling you, man, you gotta take a step back and look at things. There are a lot of inconvenient things in MO, and that's what makes it hardcore. It's way more wack to have to crush a stack for 3 min than it is to eat 50 units of rice in like 10 sec.

Altho I do think the hunger v reserve loss, especially for MA, is probably way off. But again... MA... Ma makes almost all content in the game a joke, as long as it's not ranged. I'm not saying that's wrong or right, but for some reason it seems like they are trying to balance that.

And what's gonna happen is more things like NERFING PIGS. LE sigh. This game is in a confused direction because of the emotionality of the suggestions imo.
 

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Its not realistic at all. The only reason its in game according to Henrik is to counter zergs which it does not do. His idea is that zergs will die alot and then have low reserves which the opposite of this is true.

The reserve system only really empowers people who have the advantage when you think of it balancing out someone respawning. But the main issue is that the reserve system punishes your just playing the game. Kill 18 risars on a MA and I have half greybar from full reserves. It takes away from the game and needs to be toned down a lot.

If you die thats ok because its a punishment for losing, but if you are just playing the game the grey bar is just another tedious time sink that forces you to spend time AFK to fix. And you still have to rest even with the the best food.

Just a worthless unfun system that is a hindrance on the game.
SV is probably going to keep it as it is.
At this moment eating is like minigame when you need to chew your food slowly,LOL.
Yesterday I had only couple hours to play the game and I spend most of it loosing weight which I gain accidently when I was talking to other players.
Stuff like that only makes people to rage quit.
 

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SV is probably going to keep it as it is.
At this moment eating is like minigame when you need to chew your food slowly,LOL.
Yesterday I had only couple hours to play the game and I spend most of it loosing weight which I gain accidently when I was talking to other players.
Stuff like that only makes people to rage quit.
Yep, It will never change no mater what you say or show. Henrik just doubles down on things just look at the lighting in the game right now and how most people have issues. Its not even a like dislike issues it literally makes the game unplayable or physically unpleasant to log in. He just said that "most" people like it which isnt even true. He doesn't even play the game to experience the pain the average player goes through and then just brushes off our critisims.

People say you just have to deal with it. Its a huge negative to the game and immersion in the game as well. Just a constant annoyance that just degrades peoples expedience in the game with no benefits.
 
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Food is like armor or weps or mounts or whatever, it's another thing you have to manage. And if you wanna stay tip top in reserves bring snacks, is all I can say.
Necessity to have food is understandable it is just implemented in really annoying way.A few QOL changes could make it fine but as it is now is horrible and will anger many players.
Losing my stuff in pvp is cool but not being able to participate pvp because I accidently ate to much is bad game design.
 
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No doubt, kinda... but I mean losing my stuff to pvp is ok, but riding my horse off a cliff is not, yknow? It should be noted that I don't think I died at all/lost stuff in pve circumstances til I started smokin' MASSIVE WEED AGAIN, ahaha, but I stopped so! Inspirational story. Just be careful. Understand Max stout is like the holy grail. If you can't press BACK BACK BACK when it says you are in danger of going overweight, I dunno what to say, and in the same way, you should check your reserves when you get back into town before you start eating if you are that close.

It's not really that bad, but yea WEED, I went over weight, too (I play lean atm for some reason), and so I started to push for stout and went 10kg overweight on a 184 size char. I had to make a space bar macro and wait it out for yea... hours, lol. But that's after pounding food. In a way, I understand... maybe it would be better to have a box to click that says "do not progress into the next weight threshold," but that kinda seems like more unnecessary guard rails, to me. I mean going overweight IRL is pretty stressful too. heeeh. But yea peace man, I dunno what to say. It wouldn't change the game one bit if they implemented what you ask for, but I def disagree w/ the remove reserve system.

Maybe what they should do is have suicide as a button under your char and then have VOMIT beside it. LOL. Then you can just be bulimic. ahaha. Well at least I appreciate my jokes.
 
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Tzone

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Just went over weight again. It told me I was about to go over weight and with in the same second as I was jumping with weapon out to stop it, it made me over weight. I barely went over by like .5 seconds and it took me a over a hour to fix by having guild mates hit stab me.


This weight and reserve system is absolutely garbage and should have never been put into the game like this. Day one SV people were trashing the system and it should have been reverted months ago.

On of the worse things about this game and I like survival in game, this is just trash cancer that is design to waste your time and keep you from playing the game. Just revert it to pre reserve system already. You can put in a non trash system later instead of pissing off your players.

Dumb things like the reserve system is why people laugh at SV and are trash SV constantly.
 
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Just went over weight again. It told me I was about to go over weight and with in the same second as I was jumping with weapon out to stop it, it made me over weight. I barely went over by like .5 seconds and it took me a over a hour to fix by having guild mates hit stab me.


This weight and reserve system is absolutely garbage and should have never been put into the game like this. Day one SV people were trashing the system and it should have been reverted months ago.

On of the worse things about this game and I like survival in game, this is just trash cancer that is design to waste your time and keep you from playing the game. Just revert it to pre reserve system already. You can put in a non trash system later instead of pissing off your players.

Dumb things like the reserve system is why people laugh at SV and are trash SV constantly.
My friend:)
I am glad you joined this little campaign about eating system.
I hope that showing how annoying it is in current form will make SV to at least try to implement simple fix I propose in this thread.
 

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My friend:)
I am glad you joined this little campaign about eating system.
I hope that showing how annoying it is in current form will make SV to at least try to implement simple fix I propose in this thread.
Henrik doesn't play his own game. He probably thinks its fun. These kids probably think its fun too tbh. Then again I ask where are all these people at who pretend to be active lol.
 
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Tzone

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My friend:)
I am glad you joined this little campaign about eating system.
I hope that showing how annoying it is in current form will make SV to at least try to implement simple fix I propose in this thread.
FarmerJoe one of the devs says the system is bad and its on the list to be changed. What really upsets me is that they added this to the game and before it was fine. They didnt more work to make a worse game. Just wouldnt listen.

Just like the lighting system the people who had complaints were ignored and excuses were made to keep in like how it was. A few people complained at first and almost no one was praising the lighting. But people didnt complain at first because its one of those things that is so obviously bad that anyone logging into the game would see that it should be changed.
 
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I hear many voices about new schools of magic and playable monster races but how about we tune up basic systems so playing this game is pleasurable experience?