Auto-Controlled Zombies are a TERRIBLE idea.

Sally

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When summoning zombies, you're now going to have the burden of each summoned zombie draining your mana as you're setting them up.

This now means you're not going to be able to summon as many zombies at a time; which will result in a HUGE damage reduction for zombies. Like, you're now probably only going to be able to summon half as many.

This is a TERRIBLE idea.

One of the most fun things as a necromancer is the sheer quantity of zombies you can have at a time, if you actually put the time in. It is a great trade off.

The problem with zombies was NEVER the setup. The setup was great at actually making you feel like a necromancer. You shouldn't just be able to drop a tanky zombie out of nowhere, and just stick it on someone; the ramifications in PVP will just make pets an even bigger problem. Keep in mind, all of this can be done WHILE running.

It just isn't balanced.

The correct solution is removing zombie timers, and letting people command the zombies to attack at a greater distance. People should have to set their zombies up BEFOREHAND; otherwise it'll just be dex mages running around spamming instant very tanky zombies onto people. The annoying part is playing around the timer. Remove the timer, and you solve the real issue with zombies.

Make it a toggle if you must put it in the game; but do NOT take away the way zombies currently work, because you're going to massively cut down the damage.
 
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Jackdstripper

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Does that mean they removed the “control undead” spell? If so, i agree with the change.
Its absolutely demented that you have to to summon undead, control undead (onto zombie), and command undead ( onto player) just to be able to use your pets. AND you have to do it for EACH zombie….worst mechanic in the history of gaming.
 

Sally

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Does that mean they removed the “control undead” spell? If so, i agree with the change.
Its absolutely demented that you have to to summon undead, control undead (onto zombie), and command undead ( onto player) just to be able to use your pets. AND you have to do it for EACH zombie….worst mechanic in the history of gaming.
You'll only be able to summon 5 zombies before you're out of mana. It is going to be terrible.

You're losing zombie damage and numbers.

PVP is going to have people dropping zombies constantly. If you think that is a good design, i have to seriously question your IQ, given the current state of the game with mages.

You want dex mages running around throwing endless zombies? LOL It is going to be terrible.

Also, you're going to put your zombies down, and then have no mana, and have to sit down and regen mana WHILE the zombies are draining your mana. So you're not actually speeding up setup time unless you're only putting one zombie down.
 
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Emdash

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Let people autocontrol zombies, make them have to have a corpse, give them limited mobility, so that they just kinda rise up, go after people around them (maybe even just go after who-ever except for the summoner, and then die in like 45 seconds.

Then remove beast mastery attacking pets. Being able to ride a pet and put it on someone is so fking stupid. It'd be game breaking if the game wasn't already fucked, and I think they made them really weak now, too.

Edit: also make the zombies targetable by other necros who can spread disease and blow them up, etc. It makes an interesting environmental thing.